This post has caused alot of hurt to various parties. Which I think was very wrong of me to even post this in the first place. But to my plight, I never thought this could hurt anyone. Honest.
Anyhow, I believe this post has served it's purpose already. We'll move on from this. Amen.
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i'm so proud of you Jo Yee that u see this thing in a bigger picture. this reminds me of the present season of Grey's Anatomy in which Dr. Bailey was so upset wehn she dint get the Chief Resident post but Callie got it in lieu. she was so upset that Dr. Webber, the former CR dint choose her for the post. but dr. webber has all the reasons. he knows that Bailey is the best in surgeon room rather than planning the surgeries for other doctors. it's just like Grey's Anatomy isn't it? but my point here is, Jo Yee, you hope that the persons involved in this issue will read this and i hope for the same too. once she read it, just give her some times to think and absorb everything about it or so many things that u guys have been sharing that i dunno of. i believe that time is the best healer. i hope that u guys' friendship will get better again. and even stronger.it's your right to get disappointed about this but remember, everybody needs time kan. so do you. =)I really hope everything we'll be ok. *i've been there* ;)
Oh my God teacher I love you so much. :) Thx for all the encouragement. I really needed it. :)
Let's just keep our fingers crossed and wish that everything gets back to normal, oe better. :)
yeap!
i love u too! don't think about this too much k. let they do the thinking too! for now, u've done your part and lets hope that they'll realise theirs too!
Amen :)
Lol no offense to anyone when I say, Jo, your two friends are fucking childish weh.
They let their jealousy get the better of them by blaming others. I hope things work out between you guys. But I give you one warning, it's only when little trivial things like this happen that you realize who your true friends are. Even Eric agrees with me that I'm really lucky to have found a group of best friends in college who'd go to such great ends for each other. I really hope you guys find that, and you guys will know how to (in the words of Harry Potter) tell who the wrong sort are.
Thanks so much. :)
I guess my friends just need some growing up to do. I just wish that during the process, they would stop hurting Cherrie so much.
Or I would really like to kill them.
But I wish that we can all go bak to how we were before. Before this happened.
Because I still love them. :(
jo yee~!~! i love u! i'm totally agree with u! what u felt is same with me..is just i don't know how to explain..
i agreed that sue may n mae vin think too much n abit jealous of cherrie.. they should'nt be like that because cherrie is our friend. this will hurt her. i don't think gg will drown if cherrie become president n i don't mean that if mae vin become president will drown. what we observed n our seniors observed are different.. maybe they think that cherrie more suitable than mae vin.
to mae vin n sue may, sorry to say this
honestly.. i really wanna kill u both when u both told me if cherrie become president, gg wil drown.. haha! pai seh! XD
eeeeeeeeeeee rock chan i looove u toooo! :D :D :D
i hope everybody will understand.:(
This thing is nodoy's fault kan?
hehe. LET'S KEEP THIS FRIENDSHIP STRONG!!!
y u all must say until like all these is just MY fault!!!!!!!!!!!!! did u guys think of my feeling b4? y must u all just care about cherrie. how about me?! did any1 think of it b4... i just need some time to recover. n i'm not jealous, i just frausted wit it.... please dun keep saying tat i'm jealousing her cause i won't jealous over this kind of thing and it's not worth for me to jealous of it......
erm, sue may. I am guessing u r sue may. no, i know u r sue may.
ok. i NEVER think that u r jealous of cherrie. i jst said that.. well, whatever i said in my blog la
u shouldnt be angry at cherrie, or treat her differently or whatever. it is not ANY OF OUR FAULTS. so we shouldnt let this thing affect our friendship
i am not trying to help anyone or ignore anybody's feelings and i certainly didnt say that this is ur fault
i just wrote that post cos I dont like the way we r treating each opther, especially the way u and mv r treating cherrie.
it is NOT our faults so y r we letting this bother us???
friends forever no matter wat, kan??
i tot u would understand after the post, but i guess u misunderstood it.
wat do u mean by the way tat sm n mv treat cherrie?
erm, i dunno who the anonymous is, but i am guessing u r xin yi.
well, what i mean is, when cherrie asked for opinions, they just said, "I dunno, u president wat. u decide la" like they didnt want to help.
so i dont like lorrr. :D :D :D
ok, mayb they say tat just because they r too fraust on tat time. isn't tat ok after tat? the y must u guys still say like tat?!
Let's just say that, in defense of Jo Yee, that she did not directly say that you guys are (using this exact words) jealous. I as a reader, when I read Jo Yee's post and what you guys have done, can tell that it's obvious that you guys are jealous.
If you guys are NOT jealous, however, then boo-hoo, sorry I misunderstood and assumed, because from the way Jo said you guys were acting, it had jealousy written all over it. But again I apologise (fuck I hate British spelling), for accusing anyone of being jealous. You yourselves know the best what really happened. I know it's none of my business but this blog is open to the public eye which gives me the right to state my thoughts, so there. I'm just a bystander giving my opinion.
So don't get angry at Jo Yee, cos she herself is a bystander and worst of all, YOUR friends, and it's obvious that she is feeling uncomfortable about what is happening between all of you. She's just trying to speak her mind, okay? No one, but me perhaps, is accusing anyone of anything.
Well, After reading all these.
In my own opinion, I think Jo Yee, you've gone too far with expressing your opinion/feeling and standing up for your friends, especially Cherrie.
Okay, I know I'm a newbie and all. But these guide thing has been circling round school, and its not that hard to get dirt about it.
Anyway, I think both Mae Vin and Sue May thought either of them would get the post, president and err..vice-president?
But They were caught off guard when they were told Cherrie got the post they've loong for.
We all appreciated what they've done for GG.
But, Instead of thinking that they are crazy for higher/highest post, why cant we just give them some time to get over it. Give them a breather.
Still judging on my opinion, this blog post of yours must have deepen their heartache. Eventhough you've defend them and were reasonable, but it just seems like your saying that they are bunch of luni-hard-head-gila-post. They might be, I dont know, I'm still on the process of getting know them. But still, its even too much for me to take. What would they think.
Well, I am sorry that my post ever conveyed any misportrayal of anyone of any sort. I am just saying based on what I see. And this is MY blog.
Based on the way they act, YEAH, i think that they really wanted the post as President, because they think they deserve it. I meant them as "gila kuasa" NOT because I think they wanted the MARKS, but I think it's bcos they think they deserved the post (too much).
Wat i am saying is, ONE can NEVER be too sure if she really deserves the post or not. Moreover, the seniors elected Cherrie, and NOT either of them, So doesn't that ring some bells on maybe who's more suitable for the job? Instead of the constant I-think-I-deserve-it-better battle?
I am not saying this to anyone's defence but MINE. I am looking at this the way I think it should be looked at. I know Mae Vin and Sue May were sore because they didn't get the post, and I should give them time to recover.
I don't mind giving the time to recover. I am just saying it ISN'T FAIR that they are treating Cherrie the way they treated her during the process of their recovery.
So what if they needed recovery? I'm fine with that. But who said that during recovery you are allowed to hurt OTHER people along the process?
They can take their time to recover, but DON'T hurt people along the process. That is what I'm saying. That is wat my whole post is about. Period.
And also, you are all going, "Why do you have to keep saying that, I need time to recover that's all."
I keep saying 'that' because you guys still DON'T think that it's WRONG that you have treated Cherrie that way. You guys thought it was OKAY to treat Cherrie that way just because you guys were in recovery. Who gave permission to hurt people during recovery?
Why pick Cherrie as the victim? Why? Just because she happened to be the seniors' choice?
Get what I'm trying to say?
And I am not going to delete this post and I don't regret ever writing it. At least now I get to say this in the open. And you get to say your ideas in the open.
At least there will be lesser back stabbing.
You guys might think I am wrong for writing something so private in the public, but I think the best way to kill this off is by harsh spotlight. We need to understand the situation at hand.
This is NOT about recovery being what everyone needs, but it is SANITY that we need. You need to know what you are actually angry at, and not choose the wrong victims for your constant attacks. (metaphor)
So let me stress once again, it is NOT about whether I should give them time to recover or not, but it's about making them UNDERSTAND that even during recovery, you CANNOT hurt people around you. Your recovery is not everything, it's not a handicap condition. DON'T HURT OTHER PEOPLE AROUND YOU. Do whatever you want but watch wat you're doing.
Period.
"ok, mayb they say tat just because they r too fraust on tat time. isn't tat ok after tat? the y must u guys still say like tat?!"
To anonymous.
Of course it is OKAY that you said that because you were too frustrated. But did you APOLOGISE to Cherrie after that?
THAT's what I'm talking about. You didn't. Get what I mean?
I don't want to argue. Just SEE my point, okay?
I am not even involved in this, I just want everyone to see this from the third party's point of view.
This is getting effin' ridiculous (though entertaining to see where this is going). Like I said before, Jo is a bystander in this situation, a spectator, a person who is observing what is happening around you guys.
She loves you guys, you're all her friends, it's uncomfortable for her to see you guys acting like this.
WE HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, AND WE ARE ALLOWED TO SPEAK OUR MINDS, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS WHAT JO THINKS, IT'S NOT ILLEGAL NEITHER IT IS WRONG, EVEN TO HER FRIENDS. Real friends would want to know what their friends think about them, in efforts to improve themselves. I think the only things she wanted to accomplish through this blog post was...
1) To release her stress over this VERY TRIVIAL matter by expressing her thoughts.
2) To maybe show SM and MV and even Cherrie, how this whole drama looks to outsiders, like Jo herself, even if her view is slightly biased. What would others think if they saw you guys acting like this?
I'm an outsider, I think it's pretty stupid to be bickering amongst each other like this.
Now I don't know if any of that "If Cherrie leads, we will drown" shit is real or even INDIRECTLY real (as in written in Jo's own words), but if it is, isn't that proof enough that you guys are indeed being childish and jealous? If this is untrue, then please state it as your arguments, because simply saying things like "y u all must say until like all these is just MY fault!!!!!!!!!!!!! did u guys think of my feeling b4? y must u all just care about cherrie." isn't a very good way of defending yourself. Don't make Jo out to be the bad guy, cos she's not doing that to you guys, we're all having a friendly debate/discussion WHERE NOBODY IS AT FAULT.
Psych> I don't think Jo was being harsh with anyone, have you read the posts about her sister? She's just writing it from her point of view, and she doesn't mean to spite anyone, she's probably trying to reach said parties and show them what she thinks in hopes that they will work it out amongst themselves. And I agree with Jo, just cos' they're upset and 'recovering' from their *very dramatic tone* OH SO GRAVE LOSS, that gives them no excuse to act nasty or mean and show no support to anyone else, ESPECIALLY their friends.
When someone's pissed, and you ask them for a favor and they start yelling at you, won't you go "What's his problem? Why are they taking it out on me?!" This is exactly the situation that's happening now. And maybe Cherrie's promotion did make them angry and they are recovering from their anger, they decide to be mean to her or not show her any support and have the "Give me some time for me to like you again, then we'll talk." attitude, it only adds insult to injury by proving that they are indeed jealous of her.
And yes, if they were just 'recovering' they should apologize after they have recovered. And apparently according to Jo, they have not done that yet. Isn;t that being childish?
Now I don't know if any of this drama is actually true, but if it weren't, I'd have long expected someone to utter "Hey I didn't say that! What the fuck are you talking about?!", but apparently no one has come to their defense like I said before, so I think to some account, this is true.
Once again, I am an outsider, a bystander, stating my comments about this (because well, lookie here, this blog is open to the public eye) so don't bother telling me it's none of my business. I am coming to Jo's defense because you guys are ganging up on her now, without strong enough arguments and it is taxing on Jo to convince you guys the simple fact that she is just stating her opinion, SHE IS NOT ACCUSING ANYONE OF ANYTHING.
okay. gladys here.
maybe i'm a bit kpc type =)
hmm.. i hope seniors sekalian can try to be co-opperative erm..maybe a lil bit? a lil bit will do? or..actually i'm hoping for MORE!
n..i'm kinda agreed with sum of ur statements there..but..i cant state them out =)
erm..i think..all these 'post war'(lols..can i named it so?)hadbegan since..last year? or maybe last last year? ok den..honestly,we f3,had cameacross this post problems too.
eg:me n jialay? jialay n erqi?erqi n yivon? 4 of us??
i mean among 4 of us,me jialay erqi n yivon..we used to treat each other like..'disaster'/enemy..but then,we soon realised that we actually had the same way?idea?opinion? n from there..we planned to have our own personal meeting at our house&skul n talked bout this 'post war'..and see..now everything DONE! we got back together,we worked up together,we shared ideas..everything!
but now wad had happened was,seniors' post n NEXT YEAR! in 22nd klang coy..gona have a junior war too =) i can predict it since i know them for nearly 3 years. or sum of them nearly 6 years.
u see,like wad u'd stated,juniors usually choose those seniors that they like or close too..yeah,maybe they are not so close with cherrie..but soon later they'll be!
n wad i'm disappointed was..now.. JUNIORS FOLLOWED WAD SENIORS DID.
see,this year 22nd coy was under me..and next year is JUNIORS UNDER JUNIORS! if there're those unsatification(izit correct word?),and juniors dun wanna attend this meeting coz of this senior la..or juniors keep complaining they dun like this senior la.. WHO WILL BE BLAMED..?
me? jialay? yivoN? erqi?
maybe u guys can blame us? or probably me! BUT U CANT PUT ALL THE BLAME TOTALLY ON ME..
coz wad had happened now(the war on the post) is actually influence by seniors. erm..i din mean that i never made any mistakes b4,yes i did. n yes we 4 did! but we tried to change ourselves. we told each other wad's wrong with this n that..n most of the juniors reli respect us..
when f1 n 2 juniors got to know about ranger's post,they did actually SHOCKED.
and now! I'M SHOCKED AFTER I KNEW THAT F1 ALSO ARGUING BOUT THIS POST SUB..
as seniors,supposely we're the role model to them..indeed..!
i dun mean to blame seniors 100%-ly n praise my f3 bagde=bagus..NO! but then,at least,we tried to settle down all the problems..n see,form3..no prob..juz that sum of them cant turn of to sum meeting due to transportation prob n i think juniors no prob too..
so..for the sake of BUKIY KUDA GIRL GUIDES,PLS PLS PLS be co-opperative =)
i mean everyone.. i told form3 that too..n nw,we're doing our job too..i hope seniors n juniors can do these too.. =)
signing off,
gladys@tvxq
**maybe sum of ur might not agree on my statement..but wad i written there..is my opinion n other 3 too** n pls..no offense ya.. i'm talking bhalf of f3 n 22nd klang coy. =)
poeple must so hate me right now for letting even the JUNIORS know about this war.
but i don't care. we should not hide anything. this should be a lesson for everyone.
even the JUNIORS think we are childish right now. How cool is that?
but nvm, thx gladys, for ur honest opinions. and also, pls do not say the "post war" was influenced by seniors. cos this "post war" is ifluenced by people's own feelings, not other people's situation or experience.
i am glad, gladys the four of you have worked things out bcos u all sat down and everything. i'm very proud of all of you.
but then in this case is different, cos, in this case, nobody seems to want to admit that there is a problem. so we cannot "sit down and talk about it" like u all did.
but whatever happens, i now don't care anymore. cos it takes time for people to "recover" (oh so famous word) and we don't know how long it will take. and since i'm not invloved, i don't care anymore.
i wanted to save the friendship, but i don't see anyone else wanting to do the same, and we know, it takes two to tango. if i'm the only one doing everything, it will not work out, this friendship.
people may say i am KEPO for doing this even when it doesn't invlove me, but i was only trying to make people underatand and try to save the friendship, but since i don't see anyone appreciating it, so i guess i can see how much this freindship actually means to them. or little this freindship means to them, as the case might be.
but i know i have done my part. now it's up to them whether or not they want to continue being like this, or "recover" or try to solve this once and for all.
thx gladys for suggesting the "sit down and talk" thing. so now i guess we will just have to wait and see if anyone wants to do it.
i don't want to be involved. this friendship, i'll leave it to them.
Good for you Jo. 8D
God I love watching confrontations and how silly people can get. (if this statement isn't hint enough, you people seriously need some lessons in humility).
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